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• #1 by Tim at April 16th, 2007

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  Just as a thought question,

  What is the difference between someone scoring political points and those who honestly really truly believe that either tighter gun control or a better armed general population would have prevented this horrible event?

• #2 by Fred at April 16th, 2007

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  It is a terrible tragedy. Unfortunately, the gun control loons will use this as they do other tragedies.

• #3 by tgirsch at April 16th, 2007

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  Tim:

  The difference is timing. When you’re doing it right now, while details are still sketchy and while the grief and shock are still fresh, you’re aiming for cheap political points. Allow appropriate time for grief, mourning, and reflection before going there, I don’t care which side you’re on.

  Fred:

  And the pro-gun types won’t? I’ve already seen at least one site suggest that if some of the students or teachers had been armed, this would have ended more quickly.

• #4 by Daniel DiRito at April 16th, 2007

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  A Symptom of our “Chain Letter Society”?

  Read an analysis of the influences in our “Chain Letter Society” that may be precipitating events like the tragedy at Virginia Tech and how our focus on winning and being number one may be fostering a generation of children with fully inadequate coping skills who have a misguided sense of self-worth…here:

  http://www.thoughttheater.com

• #5 by EgregiousCharles at April 17th, 2007

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  I scored some cheap political points with a post right before I read this one. Now I feel a little bad. But the problem is New York Times editorials are already calling for gun control as the solution. It’s like war; it would be best if nobody fought, but it’s even worse if only one side fights. When two sides fight you have a battle, and that’s bad. When only one side fights you have a slaughter, and that’s worse.

• #6 by Fred at April 17th, 2007

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  “And the pro-gun types won’t? I’ve already seen at least one site suggest that if some of the students or teachers had been armed, this would have ended more quickly.”

  What additional law would have prevented an act which is already unlawful?

• #7 by KTK at April 17th, 2007

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  I also think this rush to score points off the matter is repulsive. There will be plenty of time to talk about what caused this or what it means. Nothing is lost by waiting, or by maintaining your dignity, and that of the victims, at least until they are buried. (As one blogger pointed out yesterday, it began literally while the bodies were still warm.) Can we not have at least some sense of decorum?

  On an immeasurably more exalted note, it appears that at least two one faculty died while blocking the entrances to their his classrooms with their bodies, to save their students. One He was a Holocaust survivor.

  CORRECTION: It appears that the two descriptions in the story linked above both refer to the same person - Professor Liviu Librescu, 76, an Israeli national and engineering instructor, and a remarkable hero.

• #8 by Fred at April 17th, 2007

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  “it began literally while the bodies were still warm”

  Finally, I agree with you about something. In the initial reports I heard on MSNBC shortly after the shooting ceased, liberals were already mentioning the need for more gun control. It’s very sad.

• #9 by tgirsch at April 17th, 2007

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  Fred:

  Yes, but you’re being exceedingly dishonest by pretending that it was only “liberals” who were immediately trying to politicize it.

• #10 by Yeah we're all really shocked by the recent shootings at Virginia Tech. We don't know if the immediate response by the administration was sufficient to contain the threat, and it's unclear what exactly motivated the killer. Now all we can do is mourn for at April 17th, 2007

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  Yeah we’re all really shocked by the recent shootings at Virginia Tech. We don’t know if the immediate response by the administration was sufficient to contain the threat, and it’s unclear what exactly motivated the killer. Now all we can do is mourn for the victims…

• #11 by Mike Branovits at April 18th, 2007

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  When are governments going to take these issues more seriously. Haven’t we learned anything from previous
  events, Dawson College,Montreal, Quebec, security must be tighter. I’m afraid to send my daughter to college knowing these events can happen again, again, again. Security can be trained for the best to stop issues like this, yet it’s not good enough, many still die. My condolences to Virginia Tech.

• #12 by Mike Branovits at April 18th, 2007

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  People will still be able to buy guns no matter what. legally or illegaly. No one should carry guns, not even teachers. There should be metal detectors at each Main entrance, or a new invention infrared metal detector camera scanners that can pick up firearms etc.

• #13 by Julie Glaude at April 18th, 2007

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  My Sympathy goes out to the families of the murdered & wounded along with my concerns for the Virginia Tech tragedy

  Our government should stop binding our birthright of self-defense; it is our right to bear arms in this country. Just imagine if the school and the state of Virginia had recognized the right of citizens to arm themselves for self-defense: That murderer might not have killed so many innocent people. The only way to combat mass murders like that is by our own self-defense. The use of just one licensed gun might have minimized the deaths that occured in this incident (this is my opinion). I was shocked with great sadness all the reports on the shootings at Virginia Tech, however there was a serious mistake that was continually made by the reporters. Since some people in our society will obviously identify with the shooter, I feel it’s a mistake to refer to these kind of shootings as “records”. Records are meant to be broken as i understand it, and to speak to this tragedy in those terms only empowers other off-balanced idiots to try and break that record in my book. The way these incidents are reported can give these criminals (idiots) a sort of hero status. We should look for another way to get the news / information out without glorifying it.I feel we should be shocked and disturbed every single day by tragegies like this, because, unlike the deaths in Virginia, it is completely STOPPABLE.

• #14 by Fred at April 18th, 2007

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  “Yes, but you’re being exceedingly dishonest by pretending that it was only “liberals” who were immediately trying to politicize it.”

  Typical liberal tripe. The comments I have heard from pro-gun advocates is in response to the gun control freaks. Liberals don’t like it when people respond to their garbage. Their philosophy is just shut up and let liberals take care of everything.

• #15 by AmberSimpson1 at May 3rd, 2007

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  Crazy people are the ones who kill people, not the honest ones that should have the right to own guns. If you want tighter gun control then you’re going to have to move to antarctica. It wont happen in the United States of America. Even if there were no guns ever invented, people would still find other ways to kill people and do harm so getting rid of firearms will do nothing but increase the mortality rate of knife killings and beatings.

• #16 by AmberSimpson1 at May 3rd, 2007

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  Look at Canada everybody dies from stabbings. everybody carries a knife because they dont have the right to carry small firearms. It would be the same way here and everywhere else in the world. People can and will find a way of doing harm no matter what weapon they use.