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	<title>Comments on: Global Cooling? Perhaps Not.</title>
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		<title>By: Joe Sparks</title>
		<link>http://www.leanleft.com/archives/2008/02/09/6488/comment-page-3/#comment-621763</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Sparks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here we are a year later after this article, and now, the 11 year global cooling trend continues. Which of the theories about global warming factor in the temperature and weather on the sun? &quot;Global Warming&quot; is a scam to get more money out of us through fear. Say &quot;earth mother&quot; and people jump on the religion-based (not fact based) band wagon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here we are a year later after this article, and now, the 11 year global cooling trend continues. Which of the theories about global warming factor in the temperature and weather on the sun? &#8220;Global Warming&#8221; is a scam to get more money out of us through fear. Say &#8220;earth mother&#8221; and people jump on the religion-based (not fact based) band wagon.</p>
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		<title>By: ------ THE SKY IS FALLING ------ - Page 427 - The Environment Site Forums</title>
		<link>http://www.leanleft.com/archives/2008/02/09/6488/comment-page-3/#comment-621551</link>
		<dc:creator>------ THE SKY IS FALLING ------ - Page 427 - The Environment Site Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] largely bemoaning their rice bowls are in danger of breaking)  a certain intrepid blogger actually contacted Dr Tapping   [...]</description>
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		<title>By: tgirsch</title>
		<link>http://www.leanleft.com/archives/2008/02/09/6488/comment-page-3/#comment-621351</link>
		<dc:creator>tgirsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooh, name-calling!  Yeah, &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; will attract people to your way of thinking!

I &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt; look it up, by the way, which is how I know last year was the eighth warmest on record.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooh, name-calling!  Yeah, <i>that</i> will attract people to your way of thinking!</p>
<p>I <i>did</i> look it up, by the way, which is how I know last year was the eighth warmest on record.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Collicott</title>
		<link>http://www.leanleft.com/archives/2008/02/09/6488/comment-page-3/#comment-621350</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Collicott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 22:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>get in the real world fool
there is nothing about this winter and last winter that is true in your statement
take some time to look things up before you open your foolish mouth
what a waste of time you are  you brainwashed fool</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>get in the real world fool<br />
there is nothing about this winter and last winter that is true in your statement<br />
take some time to look things up before you open your foolish mouth<br />
what a waste of time you are  you brainwashed fool</p>
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		<title>By: tgirsch</title>
		<link>http://www.leanleft.com/archives/2008/02/09/6488/comment-page-3/#comment-621346</link>
		<dc:creator>tgirsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last two years of record cold?  The last two years have been in the top ten &lt;i&gt;warmest&lt;/i&gt; years on record!

If you think that a regional cold spell, even a record one, tells us anything at all about global climate, you&#039;re merely underscoring the fact that you simply don&#039;t understand the difference between weather and climate.

As for the JOE document, I did look over the energy section, and they basically tell us that we&#039;re screwed on the energy front &lt;i&gt;no matter what we do&lt;/i&gt;.  If we followed ALL of their recommendations, and did so &lt;i&gt;immediately&lt;/i&gt;, both highly unlikely no matter what, then it would &lt;i&gt;still&lt;/i&gt; be too little, too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last two years of record cold?  The last two years have been in the top ten <i>warmest</i> years on record!</p>
<p>If you think that a regional cold spell, even a record one, tells us anything at all about global climate, you&#8217;re merely underscoring the fact that you simply don&#8217;t understand the difference between weather and climate.</p>
<p>As for the JOE document, I did look over the energy section, and they basically tell us that we&#8217;re screwed on the energy front <i>no matter what we do</i>.  If we followed ALL of their recommendations, and did so <i>immediately</i>, both highly unlikely no matter what, then it would <i>still</i> be too little, too late.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Collicott</title>
		<link>http://www.leanleft.com/archives/2008/02/09/6488/comment-page-3/#comment-621345</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Collicott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes they are only in charge of your&#039;s and the rest of the people of the united states security 
they have to look at all factors and see were we are weak
you may not like or agree with them 
but i trust them more than i do Al Gore and his bunch
its far worse to leave our country with few options on energy
than try to save the world with an agenda the has very little reward if any and a high cost.
how do explain the last 2 years of record cold?
in the co2 modeling it can not happen if co2 is the driving force (we reduced nothing on co2 output so were did the cold come from)
any sane person at least has to question that!
if not question why you would not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes they are only in charge of your&#8217;s and the rest of the people of the united states security<br />
they have to look at all factors and see were we are weak<br />
you may not like or agree with them<br />
but i trust them more than i do Al Gore and his bunch<br />
its far worse to leave our country with few options on energy<br />
than try to save the world with an agenda the has very little reward if any and a high cost.<br />
how do explain the last 2 years of record cold?<br />
in the co2 modeling it can not happen if co2 is the driving force (we reduced nothing on co2 output so were did the cold come from)<br />
any sane person at least has to question that!<br />
if not question why you would not?</p>
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		<title>By: tgirsch</title>
		<link>http://www.leanleft.com/archives/2008/02/09/6488/comment-page-3/#comment-621334</link>
		<dc:creator>tgirsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 03:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHY ARE YOU YELLING AT ME?  AND YOU&#039;LL FORGIVE ME IF I DON&#039;T LOOK TO THE ARMED SERVICES AS THE PRIMARY EXPERTS ON ENERGY POLICY.

OK, I can&#039;t yell any more.  In any case, if we&#039;re entering a 50-year cooling period, how do you explain the fact that the 12 hottest years on record, dating back to 1880, have all occurred within the last 14 years?  2008 was the eighth hottest year on record.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHY ARE YOU YELLING AT ME?  AND YOU&#8217;LL FORGIVE ME IF I DON&#8217;T LOOK TO THE ARMED SERVICES AS THE PRIMARY EXPERTS ON ENERGY POLICY.</p>
<p>OK, I can&#8217;t yell any more.  In any case, if we&#8217;re entering a 50-year cooling period, how do you explain the fact that the 12 hottest years on record, dating back to 1880, have all occurred within the last 14 years?  2008 was the eighth hottest year on record.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Collicott</title>
		<link>http://www.leanleft.com/archives/2008/02/09/6488/comment-page-3/#comment-621331</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Collicott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I COMMEND YOUR WISHFULL THINKING YOU MIGHT WANT TO STILL CHECK OUT THE WEBSITE THE ARMED SERVICE&#039;S DO NOT SHARE YOUR OUTLOOK
NO WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET OFF FOSSIL FUELS FOR ALONG TIME 
SO WHY RAPE THE PEOPLE OF THIER MONEY FOR CARBON TAXES (TO SAVE THE WORLD RIGHT)
SPARE ME THE BULL SH_T
YOU CONTROL ENERGY PRICES YOU&#039;LL  MAKE A KILLING 
JUST REMEMBER THIS ENERGY WILL RISE IN DEMAND AND SUPPLIES WILL NOT KEEP UP THAT WILL MAKE THE PRICES TO RISE THROW THE TAX ON AND HOW DO THE PEOPLE KEEP THEM SELVES WARM IN THE WINTER
I GUESS THAT EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT CONTROL OVER WHAT WE DO BECAUSE THE RICH AND POWERFULL WILL NOT CHANGE JUST ALL THE REST OF US (GET IT YET ) DON&#039;T PLAY THE FOOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I COMMEND YOUR WISHFULL THINKING YOU MIGHT WANT TO STILL CHECK OUT THE WEBSITE THE ARMED SERVICE&#8217;S DO NOT SHARE YOUR OUTLOOK<br />
NO WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET OFF FOSSIL FUELS FOR ALONG TIME<br />
SO WHY RAPE THE PEOPLE OF THIER MONEY FOR CARBON TAXES (TO SAVE THE WORLD RIGHT)<br />
SPARE ME THE BULL SH_T<br />
YOU CONTROL ENERGY PRICES YOU&#8217;LL  MAKE A KILLING<br />
JUST REMEMBER THIS ENERGY WILL RISE IN DEMAND AND SUPPLIES WILL NOT KEEP UP THAT WILL MAKE THE PRICES TO RISE THROW THE TAX ON AND HOW DO THE PEOPLE KEEP THEM SELVES WARM IN THE WINTER<br />
I GUESS THAT EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT CONTROL OVER WHAT WE DO BECAUSE THE RICH AND POWERFULL WILL NOT CHANGE JUST ALL THE REST OF US (GET IT YET ) DON&#8217;T PLAY THE FOOL</p>
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		<title>By: tgirsch</title>
		<link>http://www.leanleft.com/archives/2008/02/09/6488/comment-page-3/#comment-621327</link>
		<dc:creator>tgirsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Don:&lt;/b&gt;

I didn&#039;t realize turning on the caps lock was the first step toward moving the goal posts.

Nobody&#039;s suggesting that we should just stop using fossil fuels tomorrow.  But it has to be a long-term goal.  If I were emperor for a day, existing coal-fired power plants would be retrofitted with the latest efficiency enhancements to get us through until wind, tide, solar, and methane can provide a larger part of our power requirements.

In any case, you&#039;ve fallen into the trap of poor thinking: because no one thing can completely replace fossil fuels, we should therefore not attempt to replace ANY of our fossil fuel use with renewable, non-polluting alternatives.  That&#039;s silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Don:</b></p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t realize turning on the caps lock was the first step toward moving the goal posts.</p>
<p>Nobody&#8217;s suggesting that we should just stop using fossil fuels tomorrow.  But it has to be a long-term goal.  If I were emperor for a day, existing coal-fired power plants would be retrofitted with the latest efficiency enhancements to get us through until wind, tide, solar, and methane can provide a larger part of our power requirements.</p>
<p>In any case, you&#8217;ve fallen into the trap of poor thinking: because no one thing can completely replace fossil fuels, we should therefore not attempt to replace ANY of our fossil fuel use with renewable, non-polluting alternatives.  That&#8217;s silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Collicott</title>
		<link>http://www.leanleft.com/archives/2008/02/09/6488/comment-page-3/#comment-621324</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Collicott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WELL WERE DO WE GET THE ENERGY?
DID YOU READ THE JOINT COMMAND REPORT?
YOU WANT TO SHUT DOWN COAL AND GAS PLANTS WERE DO WE GET THE ENERGY TO REPLACE THEM?
THE BEST WORLD ECONOMIST&#039;S SAID SPENDING MONEY ON GLOBAL WARMING WAS THE WORST INVESMENT OF ANY OF THE MAJOR GLOBAL PROBLEMS WE FACE! 
THAT IS MY POINT
SOLAR AND WIND WILL NOT POWER THIS COUNTRY 
FIGURE IT OUT AND YOU WILL SEE THE REAL PROBLEM 
WERE ARE GOING TO GET THE ENERGY?
YOU HAVE NO SOLUTION YOU ARE  MAKING THE PROBLEM WORSE WITH OUT A SOURCE OF ENERGY 
GET IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WELL WERE DO WE GET THE ENERGY?<br />
DID YOU READ THE JOINT COMMAND REPORT?<br />
YOU WANT TO SHUT DOWN COAL AND GAS PLANTS WERE DO WE GET THE ENERGY TO REPLACE THEM?<br />
THE BEST WORLD ECONOMIST&#8217;S SAID SPENDING MONEY ON GLOBAL WARMING WAS THE WORST INVESMENT OF ANY OF THE MAJOR GLOBAL PROBLEMS WE FACE!<br />
THAT IS MY POINT<br />
SOLAR AND WIND WILL NOT POWER THIS COUNTRY<br />
FIGURE IT OUT AND YOU WILL SEE THE REAL PROBLEM<br />
WERE ARE GOING TO GET THE ENERGY?<br />
YOU HAVE NO SOLUTION YOU ARE  MAKING THE PROBLEM WORSE WITH OUT A SOURCE OF ENERGY<br />
GET IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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