Hillary Clinton Steps In It
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tgirsch
Via commenter Ted and Obsidian Wings, we find this:
Finally, the Barack Obama campaign has found a big gun to help shoot down Hillary Rodham Clinton’s self-proclaimed foreign policy experience. And he may be the wackiest gun of all: Sinbad, the actor, who has come out from under a rock to defend Obama in the war over foreign policy credentials.
Sinbad, along with singer Sheryl Crow, was on that 1996 trip to Bosnia that Clinton has described as a harrowing international experience that makes her tested and ready to answer a 3 a.m. phone call at the White House on day one, a claim for which she’s taking much grief on the campaign trail.
Harrowing? Not that Sinbad recalls. He just remembers it being a USO tour to buck up the troops amid a much worse situation than he had imagined between the Bosnians and Serbs.
In an interview with the Sleuth Monday, he said the “scariest” part of the trip was wondering where he’d eat next. “I think the only ‘red-phone’ moment was: ‘Do we eat here or at the next place.’”
Clinton, during a late December campaign appearance in Iowa, described a hair-raising corkscrew landing in war-torn Bosnia, a trip she took with her then-teenage daughter, Chelsea. “They said there might be sniper fire,” Clinton said.
Threat of bullets? Sinbad doesn’t remember that, either.
“I never felt that I was in a dangerous position. I never felt being in a sense of peril, or ‘Oh, God, I hope I’m going to be OK when I get out of this helicopter or when I get out of his tank.’”
In her Iowa stump speech, Clinton also said, “We used to say in the White House that if a place is too dangerous, too small or too poor, send the First Lady.”
Say what? As Sinbad put it: “What kind of president would say, ‘Hey, man, I can’t go ’cause I might get shot so I’m going to send my wife…oh, and take a guitar player and a comedian with you.’”
Whoops!
I mean, all politicians engage in BS of some sort or another. But how bad does it have to be that you would resort to something that’s so easily — and so embarrassingly — refuted?
Quoth Hilzoy:
Honestly: there was no need for Clinton to do any of this. She did play a serious policy role in her husband’s administration (even if she didn’t help pass the Family and Medical Leave Act, as she claims.) The only reason for her to inflate a trip with Sinbad and Sheryl Crow into a serious diplomatic mission, and a trip to Northern Ireland involving “a visit to a women’s drop-in centre and two business parks” into helping bring peace to Northern Ireland, is that by pretending to have been more involved in foreign policy than she really was, she can pretend that while Barack Obama isn’t ready to be commander in chief, she is.
I respect your feelings, Obama is a Stand up guy,,but he losing American right and left,
When he made it a point to go on every news media and say he NEVER Heard REV Jeremiha Wright, say those things,,, then a week Later,,,He make his speech and flat out says Yes He was in church when he made those Remarks right there and then ,, Barack Obama is just a politician who just trying to get Elected,,, He Lied to all American,,, A lot of American including including Republican,, if Obama made it about Race,,, the black Community Will lose the Race,,My self, being a Mexican American, I would love to see, A black President Barack Obama is not him anymore,,, He has No integrity,,, and already lied Live on TV,,,Obama want everyone to look Beyond Race,,, Thats where he loses people,,,He telling All American,,, Look beyond Race while he hold a double standard, when it comes to Race,,,All America See’s that,, Like I said again and again,,almost 6 month ago When Don Imus said those things about the womens basketball Team,,Barack Obama said he should get fired,, Honestly I felt he should get fired,,,
but Jeremiah Wright we seen what he said about America and what He said about Hilary clinton personally He was way out of line,,, those comment are 1000 time worst than Don Imus,,, Obama refuse to Denounce him out right,,, then he tells every lets get beyond Race,,Barack has a double standard,,, just like Jesse Jackson & Al sharpton,,,
No American should be doing any kind of Remark like that,,, And I agree but when a black man does it and its happening more and more,, and In Jeremiah Wright, way worst,
there an excusee over excuses,
In other words,,, Barack Obama speech is saying “All White Americans Look Beyond Race”
While all black American live by there Double standard,,
Until Obama comes out clean, The Democratic party will remain split… I am in charge of over 100,000 blog pages that getting the word out against Barack Obama,, I monitor personally over 500,000 Negitive blogs on Hilary,,,geting the fact out,,,,If Barack Obama Really want Change,,,Then he going to Have to Start with him self,,,,
Comment 3/24/2008
I think everyone should do their research rather than vote by everything they hear on the news.
Check out Hillary: The Movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqQ6PYcKseM
very interesting video
Comment 3/24/2008
Hooray! Our first anti-Obama and anti-Clinton trolls in the same day!
Comment 3/24/2008
Hey what’s with all the extra commas anyway?
Comment 3/25/2008
This story was on CBS or NBC last night. The reporter who was with Hillary said that Hillary’s claim of coming under fire was false. Hillary had claimed that she was whisked away in waiting cars and it was too dangerous to stay for a waiting reception. The reporter had pictures of Hillary and Chelsea standing around chatting with the people who had come to greet her. Is anyone surprised that a Clinton would lie?
Comment 3/25/2008
Is anyone surprised that a politician would lie?
Is anyone surprised that a human would lie?
Comment 3/25/2008
Obamas big guns should be trained on McCain and Hillary’s as well. The same goes for the supporters of either candidate. This bullshit has to stop.
Trolls like PaulV are working for McCain.
Comment 3/25/2008
Not very bad, surprisingly or unsurprisingly. At least when it comes to politicians, using rather weak arguments seems to come naturally.
A lot of other people have that problem, too.
If you can find someone with a Brady Bunch donation that don’t use easily confuted statements to move their political agenda, I’ll be quite surprised.
Comment 3/25/2008
Just for the same of accuracy:
When he made it a point to go on every news media and say he NEVER Heard REV Jeremiha Wright, say those things,,, then a week Later,,,He make his speech and flat out says Yes He was in church when he made those
Obama said he had not heard Wright say the things that were being circulated. He later said - this is not a quote but it’s close enough to make the point - “Did I ever hear him say something controversial from the pulpit? Yes.” So unless you are going to argue that the clipped quotes of Wright we’ve all seen are the only things he’s ever said that someone one disagree with (and thus become “controversial”), those two statements simply do not conflict.
I realize that even that slight tinge of nuance is too much for some people, but they are invited to ponder the matter.
Oh, and if anyone thinks I’m saying this as an Obama supporter, ask Tgirsch.
Comment 3/25/2008
[…] Lean Left (Tgirsch)- “I mean, all politicians engage in BS of some sort or another. But how bad does it have to be that you would resort to something that’s so easily — and so embarrassingly — refuted?” […]
Pingback 3/25/2008
I’ll back LarryE up on this aspect: Obama has a legitimate shot at winning something, which pretty much rules out the possibility that LarryE could be counted among his supporters.
Comment 3/25/2008
Hey, everybody here knows I overuse both the comma and ellipsis. I’ve always wondered how I consolidate those unfortunate tendencies into one all-compassing grammatical faux pas. Thanks, Paul V.!
Oh, and perhaps Sinbad and Hillary just have incongruent interpretations of “being in danger,” they are, after all, from - wait for it - A Different World.
Thank you, be sure to tip your waiters.
Comment 3/25/2008
Give Hillary a break. After all, she said she misspoke because she was sleep deprived. She’s been staying up waiting for those 3 am calls.
Comment 3/25/2008
John Kerry would have been better. Or Al. Or just about anyone…
Comment 3/25/2008
Number9: “John Kerry would have been better.”
Better at what? Making exaggerated claims about his military service?
Comment 3/26/2008
Time Life and the Franklin Mint will be issuing a limited edition figurine set and accompanying coin collection commemorating Fred’s history-altering military contributions any day now…
Comment 3/26/2008
Has he ever claimed military contributions he didn’t make?
Comment 3/26/2008
Obama’s people will jump on this, while they ignore the lies he has told. And they’re expert at this. They haven’t noticed the Clintons spectacular governing record, or that Obama adopted Clinton policies on healthcare, fiscal restarint, and bipartisanship, and recites far left cliches and vague rhetorical fantasies. I especailly like his darling baby lamkins foreign policy. But don’t let’s talk about knowledge and achievement. It’s too much work. That deep voice and sing song rhetoric are very sweet, and relieve us from actually having to understand the issues.
Comment 3/26/2008
“They haven’t noticed the Clintons spectacular governing record,”
I haven’t either.
Comment 3/27/2008
Morris, was the “he” in post 17 referring to Fred. If so, I dunno about his military claims. He was banned for trolling. Do me a favor, ask him for me if your multiple personality disorder flares up again. Thanks.
Comment 3/27/2008
“If so, I dunno about his military claims.”
Does this blog have a search feature?
Comment 3/27/2008
It’s so cute when you pretend not to be TAFKAF.
Comment 3/27/2008
Whatever that is.
Comment 3/27/2008
let me guess: the asshole formerly known as Fred
Comment 3/27/2008
Good job, Ted. I had to ask.
Comment 3/27/2008
I.O.U. one beer, Ted!
Comment 3/28/2008
After all the one liners I beg to ask: Come let us try to reason together? Which party is the best for the country.
Your answer, it is hoped, will be: THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
Why? Because, if the Democrats are smart, they will combine the assets of both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama into one unified ticket to trounce the republicans in November. Otherwise, if McCain is elected, we will continue to get the same tired policies which have gotten the economy and our national prestige in hot water. We need to extricate ourselves from Iraq as soon as humanly possible. However, we must be realistic and guide our policies by what is happening on the ground with the troops. This thing has been going on for five years and there seems to be no end in sight. Don’t forget that we also continue to fight in Afghanistan. We need our troop strength for that fight also. Why does the public have to constantly be reminded about Afghanistan? Are they like horses with blinders on? Look at the fact that this war doesn’t even run on WAR BONDS. We need to invest in the future. Let’s have a WAR BOND drive. We are borrowing on our childrens and grandchildrens future. It is time that we had a wake up call. The economy is going in the toilet because we aren’t raising taxes to pay for the war and are
increasing the national debt without investing in our future. We won our wars with an all out effort. If we don’t have the stomach for Iraq, we should get out as gracefully as possible and get back to the staging areas of Northern Iraq and Kuwait. Now, let’s drink that beer.
Comment 3/28/2008
Sorry, Steve, but I’m not buying the combined ticket approach. First of all, I don’t think either one of them would take the #2 spot. Secondly, I don’t think the idea is as popular as you might think, even among rank-and-file Democrats. Third, I think either Clinton or Obama can beat McCain. His numbers are up for now because he’s been relatively free of scrutiny — he’s not having to fight a primary opponent. If, once the Democratic nominee is selected and the guns all turn to McCain, he continues to poll well, then it will be time to worry; but not before then.
Comment 3/28/2008
Could be, but it is NOW not then. Right now, McCain is ahead in the polls.The convention will straighten things out. Hillary Clinton doesn’t appear to want to throw in the towel. It is still only the last weekend in March. We need to get the Democratic Party to hang together,in the August convention. Superdelegates may decide whose on top of the ticket… Still no answer back on my WAR BONDS proposal.
Comment 3/29/2008
In answer to your war bonds proposal, that is also borrowing, just like the gov’t selling standard issue bonds to cover the deficit. The bonds need to be paid off in the future, so where does that money come from? Same place as standard issue bonds. If you want to finance the war now and not pass the cost on to future generations, there is one way to do it. Raise taxes.
Comment 3/30/2008
Ted, you got that right. Let’s suck in the gut and raise taxes. It’s about time we all realized it. Raising taxes is also one of my own options. Bowever, the politicians need to get going on this thing. You can’t run a war on hot air bags.
Comment 3/30/2008